Jay-Z vs. Nas - Who Won This Classic Battle?
Submitted by mfizzel on Mon, 01/09/2006 - 3:48pm.
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Jay-Z
29% (1804 votes)
Nas
71% (4348 votes)
Total votes: 6152
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Tough one
Submitted by KashmaNiaC on Wed, 01/11/2006 - 12:42pm.
Can they both win? Because in my opinion they're equal if anything; It's hard to tell because noone ended up looking like 50 Cent. For the record I voted Nas because his rap's still make sense (god only knows what Jay set out to achive on Kanye's Diamonds remix :)
Both excellent MC's/soon-to-be Rap legends if they can hold it for a few more years.
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yeh. i vote nas cos jay-z
Submitted by afzilla on Wed, 01/11/2006 - 3:46pm.
yeh. i vote nas cos jay-z got ether-ed. They both legends in the game tho.
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Nas is illmatic, but yo
Submitted by speedybluntz on Thu, 01/12/2006 - 10:38pm.
Nas is illmatic, but yo listen close to Takeover, thats the end of the show.
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Word, nas took jay with
Submitted by djkpat on Sun, 01/29/2006 - 10:14am.
Word, nas took jay with ether hard my man, can't deny jay's done well for himself, but it comes down to hit the hardest and that was by far, hands down, with no doubt....nas
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NAS IS DA SHIT HE FUCKED THE
Submitted by AZTEC23 on Mon, 01/23/2006 - 3:03pm.
NAS IS DA SHIT HE FUCKED THE SHIT OUT BIG LIPS JAY-HOE
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jigga won both r nice but
Submitted by dave369 on Wed, 04/12/2006 - 1:20am.
jigga won both r nice but if had to choose jigga over nas 2 lines killed him me and a.i got more in common get it more in carmen talking about nas babys momma and the line he put out a hot ablum every 10 years before nas sign w jigga i thought his career was over since stilllmatic bc good son was not hot like 2or 3 was if u had to put nas ablum next to jay i would say jay had more hot ablums but nas still nice with them at def jam nas ablum will prop be fire
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jigga won but both r nice
Submitted by dave369 on Wed, 04/12/2006 - 1:22am.
jigga won but both r nice but i have to choose jigga over nas bc 2 lines killed him , me and a.i got more in common then ballin and rymin get it more in carmen talking about jay and ai both fucked nas babys momma and the line he put out a hot ablum every 10 years before nas sign w jigga i thought his career was over since stilllmatic bc good son was not hot like 2or 3 was if u had to put nas ablum next to jay i would say jay had more hot ablums but nas still nice with them at def jam nas ablum will prop be fire
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Yo at the end of the day, Nas got the Dub in that battle but...
Submitted by regrichpg3 on Sat, 04/21/2007 - 10:56pm.
Yo at the end of the day, Nas got the Dub in that battle but...
Like Hov said "...I will not lose/but even in defeat/is a valuable lesson learned/so it even's it up for me..."
I try to tell dudes all the time Nas is a poetic rapper and Jay is a lyrical/entertainer rapper. It's like compare Jordan and Shaq, both dominate the game but in different way. Same wit Pac and Big.
Now I even tho it may be a no brainer, I can understand comparing Biggie & Jigga, or Pac and Nas. Two artist in the same lyrical field.
P.S., The L.O.X., Busta, Kanye, Common, Method, Em, Luda, and those Field Mobb dude's are under-rated. Real Talk.
And I propose this question… and please think before answering:
Who’s better lyrically?
Kanye, Common, or Mos Def????
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From Da London England . . Aliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiie
Submitted by Konan (not verified) on Fri, 06/06/2008 - 5:06pm.
Aliiiiiiiiiiiie // das a shower way of puttin it .. how nas is a poetic rapper and jay-z's a entertainer .. gully battle doe .. n dnt fink u can try a ting coz even doe im from london england ino my hip hop shit
bless.
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there's a reason
Submitted by WallStreetTrader on Sat, 07/31/2010 - 5:18pm.
There is a reason why nobody remembers Supa Ugly. It sucked. Jay even commented on the radio that it wasn't a reply to Ether that it was just a freestyle. Even Bleek went on the radio and said {It was a gloomy day, for real. When Flex played it, I ain’t going to lie, I admitted to myself and had to tell the big homey he got us, he got one up on us. That shit was cooked crack cocaine right there. Like it was no denying that record was hot as shit, it was a bunch of lies on that record, but it was still a hot record. One that is going down in history, you know what I mean. We were at Baseline Studios listening to the radio when we first heard it. Jay and everybody was saying this shit’s hot"
If they can admit it why can't you?
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NAS won obviously
Submitted by Rakim808 (not verified) on Mon, 08/25/2008 - 9:30am.
Nas won.
1. Commercial and money success isn't correlative to being real and pure. At the end of it all it's about being real. Nas is the van gogh of rappers. Jay Z is just another businessman with money who just knows to diss. Anyone can do that.
2. Jay Z loves all Nas's style. Jay Z loved singing Dead presidents which is obviously Nas's pure classic track, and yes he did got nas's baby's momma, but that just goes to show that Jay Z loves Nas's style. And thing is, Jay Z may even want to look like Nas.
3. Jay Z has no substance. Nas is pure substance
4. Nas is real art. Jay Z is an immature art
5. Jay Z said to nas , "you're album is good ten year average" and i'm worth "300 million dollars"
Nas said "My 1 album is so good that its good for ten years or even more while you have to
release a lot of album" and "I feel sorry that you feel that you're only that worth, 300 million is nothing, i feel sorry you only value yourself that way" - that speaks real value.
6. Jay Z belongs to the popular crowd, the mobb mentality, while Nas belongs to the wise few with real value.
7. Jay Z simply got lucky. While Nas maintains integrity.
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im feelin at u wrote ...u no
Submitted by hello (not verified) on Wed, 01/07/2009 - 8:40pm.
im feelin at u wrote ...u no wat hip hop is about for real at least someone is educated on what it means to be hip-hop
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That niggia
Submitted by justin olds (not verified) on Thu, 01/08/2009 - 10:08am.
NAS is that niggia he is one of the best in the game right now but he is not like he was nas can jump on song and kill it i no it you no it J just do shoes and shit nas got you by a mile A NAS DO THE DAM THING MAN
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nas is a prophet and jay is a bitter
Submitted by Suppa_duppa_fly on Mon, 01/16/2006 - 9:13pm.
nas is a prophet he teach and jay-z is bitterr motha fact he don't just bitte he takes everythin and change some like 2 vers and he call dat a wrap, wich brings me to tha conclussion that jay ain't no MC is a MC's bitter....
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ether blew the fucking
Submitted by frankgriz on Fri, 01/20/2006 - 6:04am.
ether blew the fucking doorag off jigga mans head peice (no homo) esco is one of the top 5 all time greats which include HALF-A-MILL, NAS, AZ, BIG, AND BIG L
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u no ur mutha fuckin rappers
Submitted by hello (not verified) on Wed, 01/07/2009 - 8:43pm.
u no ur mutha fuckin rappers thats wat im talkin bout
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dollars make sense
Submitted by phits on Tue, 01/24/2006 - 11:43am.
The one thing that I have realized after all this time is that people want to see the man on top fall on his face. Jigga has dominated hip hop going on 10 years now...and all people can do is H-A-T-E. Hova won this battle hands down...Nas wanted to sling mud, and the God [not his son] brought the phucking Tsunami!!!
Jigga is an ugly porch monkey...so what? what does looks have to do with rapping? He borrows lines from Biggie and other icons of hip hop...so? Isn't sampling a common thread in hip hop?
The legend gave us all a Public Service Announcement on the 5 star classic The Black Album, and some didn't heed it....by the way that's 3 classic LP's in his career...most mc's can't get it done once...like the GANG said "Give the credit, where it is due"!! So let me refresh it for those that closed their eyes to reality, b'cuz life goes on whether you ready or not....
I done came through the block in everything that's fly
I'm like, Che Guevara with bling on, I'm complex
I never claimed to have wings on
Nigga I get mine - by any means on whenever there's a drought
Get your umbrellas out because, that's when I brainstorm
You can blame Shawn, but I ain't invent the game
I just rolled the dice, tryin to get some change
And I do it twice, ain't no sense in me
lyin as if, I am a different man
And I could blame my environment but
there ain't no reason why I be buyin expensive chains
Hope you don't think users are the only abusers
Niggaz, gettin high within the game
If you do then, how would you explain?
I'm ten years removed, still the vibe is in my veins
I got a hustler spirit, nigga period
Check out my hat yo, peep the way I wear it
Check out my swag' yo, I walk like a ballplayer
No matter where you go, you are what you are player
And you can try to change but that's just the top layer
Man, you was who you was 'fore you got here
Only God can judge me, so I'm gone
Either love me, or leave me alone....
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U R an idiot.
Submitted by WallStreetTrader on Sat, 07/31/2010 - 5:25pm.
Nothing that Jay ever made can touch Illmatic. By most people and critics it is considered the best album ever made. Reasonable Doubt never reaches the top 5. And the Black Album vs Ready to die or Only Built for Cuban Linx...? I don't think so.
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skeeted through your
Submitted by macfly_23 on Wed, 01/25/2006 - 5:30pm.
skeeted through your jeep/left condoms on your baby seat
ghost
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NAS won the BATTLE... But
Submitted by melquan on Wed, 02/01/2006 - 5:23pm.
NAS won the BATTLE... But Jay-Z won the WAR!!! No matter what... Jay fucked Nas's Baby Momz... For Real!!! and now he going to work for Jay... Shits Crazy B!
-melQuan
"There Ain't Nuffin' Like Hip-Hop Music!"
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Baby momz shit
Submitted by vesthepes on Thu, 02/02/2006 - 7:03am.
Hova maybe boned his baby momz, but who cares(I dont).I listen 2 the records I dont care bout his money or hoes he knocked-and no fuckin way that Jay won.He is a biter,listen 2 Hovas shit before illmatic-it sucks-fu schnickenz shit.Lame flow & all.Not to mention the lyrics-what is Hov rappin bout.Listen 2 what goes around, my country, rewind and the whole Streets Disciple. If you dont feel it you are dumb and narrow minded.Dats about it.1
VesTh3Pes
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I know you would care if
Submitted by melquan on Thu, 02/02/2006 - 6:02pm.
I know you would care if Nigga's was bonin' your baby momz!!! LOL!!!
-melQuan
"There Ain't Nuffin' Like Hip-Hop Music!"
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shut shut shut
Submitted by addeyfat on Fri, 02/20/2009 - 3:07pm.
Nas ain't working for Jay, they working together. Jones Experience and Def Jam biacch.
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DA TRUTH
Submitted by BelizeanBway on Sun, 02/19/2006 - 9:46pm.
No matter what yall say, jay-z lines in takeover and super ugly were the truth from his gun with large proffesor,to fuckin his baby momz, nas had good punch lines and jokes but his shit was all false, just like the cam diss!BETTABELIZEIT....LEGACY ENT. WE RUN AZ
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GET DA FUK OUTA HERE.....NAS AINT WIN SHIT
Submitted by DaGoyaMan on Mon, 02/20/2006 - 5:55pm.
H.O.V.A.
ALL DAY ERY DAY MUTHA FUKAZ
MARCY stand da fuk up
come on now
"YOU WUZ KISSIN MA DIK, WHEN U WAZ KISSEN DAT BITCH."
dat linez a KILLA
How can u come back to a line like dat when da shit iz all facts and not juss rapzz
COME ON NOW, I GIV IT TO NAS, ETHER WUZ AIGHT
BUT HOV TOOK DAT SHIT
YA SMELL ME????
YA BETTA
HOLLA AT YA BOY
YA ALREDE KNO WUT IT IZ, WUT IT DOO
JUST.....
.....DONT WATCH ME, WATCH TV.....
$100$
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who won this classic battle
Submitted by JayB on Mon, 02/20/2006 - 8:17pm.
the question is "who won this classic battle", not who did more fucked up shit to the other person. "you was kissin my dick when you was kissin that bitch" is a nursery school rhyme. rhyming two cus words that dont even rhyme? how is that a killer line? ether lyrically murdered any dis track jay ever made and he continued to try to top it but couldn't. nas won the battle without a doubt as this poll shows. here is the bottom line: nas is better lyrically, nas was a mentor to most rappers that consider themselves lyrical but especially to jay-z; jay-z has the better delivery, jay-z is the better business man, and overall jay-z makes better music.
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Jay-Z's garbage agianst Nas
Submitted by TipStylez on Sat, 02/25/2006 - 5:36am.
Jay-Z is too mainstream thats why alot of yall Jay-Z fans probly like all the fags like DemFranchize and shit 50cent Gay-Unit. Nas is all about his music where every song he came out with is about his life. All this mainstream music is abunch of fags rappin bout shit anyone can, money, cars, hoes, you dont need talent to rap bout that shit. Look at Nas, hes poetic and he'll do damage to Jay-Z anyday.
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jigga
Submitted by Airshow on Sat, 06/16/2007 - 9:27pm.
Jay-Z is too mainstream thats why alot of yall Jay-Z fans probly like all the fags like DemFranchize and shit 50cent Gay-Unit. Nas is all about his music where every song he came out with is about his life. All this mainstream music is abunch of fags rappin bout shit anyone can, money, cars, hoes, you dont need talent to rap bout that shit. Look at Nas, hes poetic and he'll do damage to Jay-Z anyday.
Come on now man, people who like jay have a little more sense than to listen to dem franshise boys. And you wanna talk about songs about life and the streets, you obviously havent heard a jay-z albumn. He's got plenty of them: Ballad of a Fallen Soldier, Meet the Parents, those are just a few off the top of my head.
"I dumb down for my audience And double my dollars
They criticize me for it Yet they all yell "Holla"
If skills sold Truth be told
I'd probably be Lyricly Talib Kweli
Truthfully I wanna rhyme like Common Sense
(But i did five Mil)
I ain't been rhymin like Common Sense
When your sense got that much in common
And you been hustlin since
Your inception Fuck perception
Go with what makes sense
Since I know what i'm up against
We as rappers must decide what's most impor-tant
And i can't help the poor if i'm one of them
So i got rich and gave back
To me that's the win, win
The next time you see the homie and his rims spin
Just know my mind is workin just like them
(The rims that is)"
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NASSS
Submitted by Tha_Prophet on Sat, 02/25/2006 - 6:53am.
kkk truly ... NAS takes JAY ova dis.. NAS is btter lyrically then Jay and plus JAYZ a GRADE "A" BITTER... but styl wit out the bitting NAS is better
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Jay fucked his baby momma
Submitted by King Richard on Sun, 03/19/2006 - 2:38pm.
The songs didnt matter yes either was a great dis record but then on super ugly Jay said he fucked Nas' baby momma now Nas take orders from jay and he taking shots at Camron for jay Nas called Cam a snitch on BET
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And Jigga killed Cam right
Submitted by Carnivore (not verified) on Tue, 08/05/2008 - 10:54pm.
And Jigga killed Cam right back on his Silent Assassin track. Camron is more of a biter than Jay is because Cam steals shit from modern rappers like Em and DMX. Jigga is giving nods to Hip Hops greats, and little nuggets for us old school hip hop fans.
When I hear a line from Jay that I heard back in the day from P.E. I get excited and pull that disc out and start bumping it. That's not biting that's paying homage to the one's who came before.
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Its Obvious
Submitted by RobzVega on Tue, 04/11/2006 - 11:01pm.
Nas Destroyed Jay-z thats it...I love Jay-z that nigga is ill dont get me wrong but Nas Murder Him in dat classic Battle no doubt on dat homie shitt..and look now Nas is signed with Def Jam now its a different move there gonna mix there flows togheter u kno its really gonna be New Classic...Etherically speakin you boy RobzVega 1.
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Dont u ever think on
Submitted by hcone on Fri, 04/28/2006 - 12:42am.
Dont u ever think on comparing the 2 cos shit's real on Nas and Jay-Z sucks Nas' dick everyday.
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POUND for POUND JAY-Z is the best to ever come around here excl
Submitted by hova da god on Mon, 05/01/2006 - 2:55pm.
I bet that Nas uses a thesarus to for big words.he is the fake rap version of TD JAKES!u say that he is lyrically inclined but he is not!U should listen to all his albums carefully u piece of shit.JUST because u dont undestand him doesnt mean that he is ill.That ether garbage hardly had any facts.u just saying he won coz they helped him cheat & people who cant think 4 themselves like u believe it
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u mean the best swagger jacker
Submitted by Suppa_duppa_fly on Mon, 05/01/2006 - 3:51pm.
name one hit singel that jay-z actually wrote withought jackin shit from anotha cat ,,, cause i just don't understand how the hell would u say that jay-z is better then the prophet cause if u listen to nas u'll actually learn someting in history or what eva is writtin about,, but jay' all i've heard was blah blah blab blah blah blah so all i gotta tell em is ok shut up
Sticky fingaz is the new Blade catch him this somer on Spike TV bitches!!!!!
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swagger jacker???
Submitted by south on Mon, 05/01/2006 - 4:10pm.
damn, cam make one stupid little mix song and yall got a new catchphrase for hova. i mean shit, his fault for being a rap scholar. i guess you want someone that doesnt know his rap history to come in this bitch and rule? and since nas made that wack ass song firm biz, does that mean that he swagger jacked teena marie? i dont know about you, but i would rather take after b.i.g. and rakim and shit... and what did nas make one song about jay? i mean ether was the shit and everything, but jay went at his ass over and over, you know why nas didnt respond? because there aint really much to say after your business gets out there like jay put his out there.
I say a B.I.G. verse i'm only biggin up my brother
Biggin up my borough
I'm big enough to do it I'm that therough
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JAY Z IS THE GREATEST MC OF ALL TIME:INTRODUCTION TO RAP ANALYSI
Submitted by hova da god on Tue, 05/02/2006 - 3:47pm.
What is it that u learn from Nas that u havent learned from Rakim or read about before?If u say that JAYZ is all blah then son ask ur literature teacher for a refund b'coz u clearly cannot analyse poems that r above Shakespeare's level.BRIDGING COURSE TUT#1:Get all the black album lyrics on paper(u are not a good listener) and go over them MR SUPA SLOW LEARNER DUPA FART.hint #1:spot the numerous multiple entendres.
ROC .STUDENTS OF THE GAME!!
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i'm sry. but if anyone needs
Submitted by coolsk8r on Tue, 08/01/2006 - 9:29am.
i'm sry. but if anyone needs a go back to school, it's you and i would suggest starting from the beginning again. first off Shakespeares poem and plays are so complex that the true meanings are studied and debated by people who devote thier lives to it and shakespeare invented like half of the words used in the english language today, so i think it's pretty out of line to even compare Jay-Z to shakespeare and if you want to see true genius in rap try gettin all the lyrics to illmatic on paper, and you'll hopefully come back a little more educated.
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well
Submitted by Airshow on Sat, 06/16/2007 - 9:37pm.
well lets see, theres show me what you got, do u wanna ride, money aint a thang, 99 problems etc.
And for songs that werent singles, but are great w/o stolen lines: Brooklyn's finest, takeover, 22 twos, 44 fours, public service announcement, Cant knock the hustle, D'evils, Can I live, Coming of age, Friend or foe '98, You must love me, If i should die, Streets is talkin, U dont know, Renegade, All i need, lyrical exercise, Hovi baby, The watcher 2, Diamond is forever, Guns n Roses, Blueprint 2, Nigga please, What more can i say, Lucifer, 30 somethin, Beach Chair, Minority Report, Dig a hole, Kingdom Come, Oh my God, The prelude(kingdom come). Thats just top of the head, without even having to listen to the songs.
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Nas hands down
Submitted by anita_job on Wed, 05/17/2006 - 9:50pm.
Ether has so many layers lyrically he blew Jay-Z away. Also, my friend works at Hot 97 and told me that when the callers voted on who won (Takeover vs. Ether) that NAS actually won, but because Hot 97 is down with Jay they announced him the winner.
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Nas Won.
Submitted by paidthacosttobe... on Thu, 05/25/2006 - 3:30am.
Nas won fo sure. But look how much money Jay Z got out off Hip Hop Rap Music.
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in my opinion, takeover is
Submitted by coolsk8r on Tue, 08/01/2006 - 9:23am.
in my opinion, takeover is barely a diss track compared to ether, nas murdered him on that lyrical shit
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Look at it this way
Submitted by justobjective on Fri, 10/13/2006 - 5:03pm.
justobjective
think this was the greatest lyrical battle of the ages. Ether was an MC burying classic diss record. Ya'll don't realize though, that it takes only another of equal wit and composure to immediately respond with a joint like super ugly. Not everything said on Ether was accurate. Jay Z ,in the same token should have and was very well capable lyrically of packing more arsenal into super ugly. I guess when you are effortlessly on top and running a dynasty, you could give a rats ass about lyrical beef. If jigga was starvin like Nas at the time he would be forced to give better thought into a diss record. If you had a chance to reclaim your forgotten glory , would'nt you put extra thought into the shit you wrote. Jay didn't treat this like beef yo. He said it best"this is not beef , this is rap homie, I don't have a scratch on me." I'm just glad that two of my favorite minds in hip hop will collaberate and hopefully bring back glory to a game that now looks like a lame reality tv show featuring paris hilton.
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