Lil Wayne - The Greatest Rapper Alive Pt. 2

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I cant take it nemore. Thes stupid niggas on these forums made me gat an acct i was happy to jus download but this is outta hand now. First off EVERBODY GET OFF PACS DICK HES DEAD AN GONE GET THE FUCK OVER IT HE DON EVN COUNT IN THIS TOPIC THE TITLE IS BEST RAPPER ALIVE. An as far as pac bein tha realset thats FALSE Slim would put him in his place if he came to da N.O. wit sum shit, an if u don belive me bout Slim bien tha realest then tell me y damn near every rapper in tha game form all corners of the country was at his second line, who was at pac funeral? Now secondly everbody that says wayne is whack is crazy/stupid. Wayne is the best ALIVE, wit Cass right behind him in lyrical ability. I can't believe nobody even mentioned 2 of da N.O. finest Juve is a fool if you dont believe me or havent heard him listin to the 400 degreez or juve tha great cd, and finally Soulja Slim was a mutha fuckin fool an if he was alive he would put all thes rappers to shame. A as far as Pac bien tha first rapper to shoot an get shot UNLV (representin Cash Money), an C-murder, Slim (wit No limit) have been killin an thuggin since b4 pac was even famous. an wayne has been in the game since 93 when he was 11 not 15 if you don belive me look up the BGs wit lil wayne an lil doogie (now BG) N.O. rappers are the realest, because they live thier lyrics not like all thes fake ass up niggas out these days. There are sum real rappers but not many left. Kayne an twisa are excellent lycicts as well most people in this topic are ridin the popular niggas dicks, get your own or ride a deservin niggas dick, FUCK JAY-Z that nigga is trash i personally know better unsigned MCs better than him i almost forgot UGK,Scarface, 8Ball an MJG are the godfaters of the South

As far as bein the best about sales an fillin up seats at a concert, Its Em all the way i dont care what nebody has to say em will put more people in the seats than any other MC on earth

every1 claim killa but how u know who killin? how u gon say slim realer den pac. slims lyrics r garbage so wat makes him realer den pac? ofcourse southern artist gon like slim cuz he from da south. watchu talkin bout pacs funeral 4 there was none. pac was cremated. pac has his own recreation center thing n all dat. cmurder killed a lil kid cuz da kid beat c-murder in a rap battle. u call dat real i call dat pussy. fuck slim wats so special bout him? every1 gettin shot n shottin man its nuthin special. pac is known 4 livin his lyrics no1 else is provin 2 do dat. n slim n bg sum junkies u gon believe wat crackheads say. pac is n always will b da realist rapper dat ever lived. wat u learn from slims lyrics? howto smoke crack shoot h n kill people cuz dats all he spittin. get outta here wit da slim realer den pac shit!

"grown up music"??? get the fuck outta here...it was wack get over it!!!...lol

HOW DA FUCK YOU GONE SAY THAT SHIT. FUCK JAY-Z IZ THE BEST ALIVE AND WEEZY IS RIGHT BEHIND HIM. YOU DUMB ASS HOW YOU GONE SAY THAT SHIT YOU SHOULD HAVE YOUR MEMBERSHIP REVOKED. AND TI AND 50 IS IN TOP TWENTY ALSO.

ur title suits u best kid. jay is wack as hell man n always will b. he's jus da richest das it. wat did he bring 2 da game? absolutely nuthin man! pac was da 1st 2 let every1 know n jay is n been pacs bitch. den there was nas who exposed jay for bitein his own lyrics n killed him on ether. den jay still samples lyrics. ur fav rappers a fake phony bitch nigga face it youngin listen 2 sum original lyrics n rappers. u should def get yo membership revoked 4 sayin 1 of da stupidest shit ne1 has ever hurd-50 on top 20?! ur jus jay-z's fan n jus say hes ur fav but dont b tellin lies like jay da best alive. u needta back track 2 da mid 80s n mid 90s 4 da greatest mc's n exclude will smiths back up dancer jay out of da equation.

CC

on his anti-Jay tyrades.... Jigga is the best in the game now, and IMO, the best ever. even though Kingdom Come gets boring... It is still better than almost every other album I heard this/last year.

Hate his new flow for the most part, but most of his lyrics still on point and he has this thing called "Diversity" and some Depth and thicker content than almost everyone else.

Jay, Lupe, Buddens, Kanye, Pap, Jadakiss, Clipse, everyone from Wu-Tang, Redman, Busta, and many more are better than Wayne. He isn't in the top 100 dead or alive. That may be an exaggeration but he damn sure isn't top 10 or 20. All he has is punchlines, and talks about the same shit. Except on "Georgia Bush", which is trash as compared to "Minority Report", and I actually just think it was trash.

CC

but as usual, he was pretty much dead on with the rest of his points.

It all comes down to opinion. The main reason someone couldn't consider a current rapper the G.O.A.T is either one of two reasons. They're riding a legend's dick, or just consider 95% of the shit pumped out garbage these days. When it comes to Southern artists however, no one really has anything on Weezy.

CC

I have to disagree on the 2nd point, (Wayne best in south)

Luda, OutKast, Face, Eightball, Juicy J, Project Pat, T.I., Clipse maybe more.

But I am with you on the riding a legends dick thing... if you are speaking on Pac, Pun, BIG, or Big L (who was the best of the 4)

and 95% of music today being garbage, the is true too.

Clipse pretty much stay in the same vein with everything, lyrical content, approach, delivery, etc. Too lazy to breakdown the rest. Isn't Virginia technically Northern?

The only one I'd agree with being better than Weezy hands down is Outkast. Ludacris and him run really close to me, though.

CC

I'm not sure what to consider Clipse, I mean they from Virginia (they don't let you forget) History wise VA is a southern state so whatever.

You are right, no content from them,I really can't listen to there album straight through b/c I get tired of hearing about coke. But I can hear there ability when I am listening to it, so I guess I am going off potential. Malice > Pusha BTW... but yeah.

but I feel the same way when I listen to Wayne, except I don't see the potential, that is me though.

i dont understsand. i like alot of rappers n i listen 2 dem all i really tried 2 like jay-z but i cant man.. there r some many way better rappers. i dont understand wat makes jay soo good. he brings absolutely no new lyrics 2 da game dat u havent already heard...most of his big hits he sampled from other rappers which basicly means jay-z cant come up wit his own shit. da only reason people think jayz is soo good is cuz in almost every single track he ever put out he always claims hes like jordan or hes top 3 or he king n other bullshit. hes not a good rapper at all. jayz is top 3 richest mcs but until he makes an album were he doesnt mention himself on every track n wit all orginal lyrics imma call jay da best cover/kareoke rapper alive.

he jus sounds diff den other rappers. yea he does bring some truth 2 his lyrics but when he goes hes da jordan of recordin or hes in da top 3 i cant take seriously.jay was good lyrically b4 reasonable doubt but den he slowed everything. i listen 2 alot of golden age rap so there is no point 4 me 2 listen 2 jay when i heard everything b4. i jus dont like when im listenin 2 some1s lyrics n den dey start talkin bout dey ability.. i feel jay is tryin 2 battle every1 who is listenin 2 him.

i like weezy alot hes 1 of my fav rappers 2 listen 2 now but easily da greatest rapper alive would b between kool g rap or rakim...maybe big daddy kane. dese 3 r da godfather/king lyricists of rap history. dey been around over 20 years n dey still rappin n comein wit new albums.

on kingdom come he constantly raps bout himself man i dont give a fuk bout some1s life. i like rappers who rap bout knowledge or sum other shit besides dem selves alll da fukkin time. jay isnt even lyrical wit his lyrics he jus plain out raps. minority report was new but we all heard katrina songs from new orleans rappers. y did jay take 3 fukkin years 4 his album. we all knew jay didnt retire he jus wanted 2 be like mike n he even proved dat in his show me wat u got track. jay is nuthhin but a wannabe.

Dude...jay's not lyrical? please....you ever heard 22 2s? 44 4s?....

Brooklyn's Finest?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, for nine six, the only MC with a flu
Yeah I rhyme sick, I be what your tryin to do
Made a fortune off Peru, extradite, china white hero(i)n
Nigga please, like short sleeves I bear arms
Stay out the way from hereon
(Clear) gone

and that's not even his most lyrical...

Jay may not have amazing multis, give u that but that the dude has insane metaphors...

"I pull words out the air like bluetooth" <--- Call Me Crazy - Ne-Yo feat. Jay-Z

.... in fact go listen to it http://www.zshare.net/audio/ne-yo-feat-jay-z-call-me-crazy-realtalkny-mp3.html

And that's a new track..tell me that ain't a mean ass guest verse?

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i said b4 he was lyrical b4 reasonable doubt das it. like i said he is full of himself n alwasys raps bout himself n u even proved it. 22 2's is mostly all too's n 44 4's is mostly all for's wat so special bout dat.

What rapper doesn't rap about himself? Cockyness is REQUIRED to be a good MC..Hip Hop is competitive...

KRS One upped himself, Rakim's one of most famous line is how he lays down many MCs in a row. Nas done upped himself..

It's not neccessarily that all they do is talk about themselves? but how do they do it is what your getting at?

P.S.
Did u listen to that verse on that song...that's lyrical in my opinion, not amazing but 90 percent more clever than most rappers out right now

once in awhile rappers talk bout dey ability but jay-z does it on almost every single track he ever did matter of fact i think he talks bout himself on every track i cant think of 1 track jay does not mention his "abilities". he'll b talkin bout somethin serious den b like im da best or my lyrics r da shit dats fukkin lame! its not neccessary on every track its like jay is tryin 2 battle da people who listen 2 him. 22 2's n 44 4's he uses too many of da same words it would b clever if he didnt use da same words constantly. like there r alot more 2's n 4's in words den jus too,22,2 n 4,44,for cuz dats wat jay mostly used on dose trax.

Lil Wayne better than 2pac? nigga please... wayne does hardly rank in the top 100 dead or not even rank.

yea wayne bettter than pac is just a reckless statement u gotta remember pac never had a ghostwriter like wayne did not takin anything away from wayne but the statement is better than pac is well simply irresponsible

no matter wat 2pac will always b da best rapper ever cuz there r alot of lyricist in da game but 2pac is the only 1 dat rapped bout every topic there is, he was da realist n no mater who u r everyone can relate 2 most of his lyrics....cuz every other rapper only raps bout 3 things- hoes, drugs n violence. den there were chuck d n krs who were political n rapped bout black people. n 2pac did all dat n sooo much more. n the world n industry knows dis dats y 11 years after his death 2pac still comin out wit albums cuz every rapper wish dey did a track wit pac. no1 recorded as many tracks as pac did in so little time. besides rappin pac was in a bunch of movies n wrote his own movie. pac described in his lyrics wat every1 feels n wat he said he did. pac shot cops, kicked niggaz ass 4 talkin shit,etc...rappers all talk dat shit on paper put dey dont do it n pac did it.

Get off weezy's dick! He's not better then Pac or Biggie and never will be. Without those 2 wayne wouldn't even have the opportunity to do wut he does. Yes Weezy is an extremely talented rapper but he's gotta pay his dues and bring somethin' original b4 he is considered anywhere close to being the greatest. Besides he's even admitted he stole Jay-Z's style. If Jay Z could never be better then BIG because he jocks him so much, wayne can never be considered better the Jay Z

Man word to ya motha every day that i'm readin mixtapetorrent's forums i'm losin my mind!! Wayne has lyrics better than pac?? Wayne is betta? Whas next?? Wayne is betta than biggie? THIS SITE HAS MANY MEMBERS THATS FOR SURE THEY NOT TRUE RAP FANS but still postin much shit here...
U nigga must be def smokin!!!!! When u talk about niggas like pac, big, hov, snoop,nas, n krs n ... you cant compare them wit anyone else.
PAC-BIGGIE-HOV-NAS IS HIP HOP!!! WITHOUT THEM THIS MUSIC WOULDNT EVEN HAVE REACHED TO YA EARS!!
and u comparin WAYNE nigga????

what tha fuck to u mean "pac got hits", u tellin me pac aint got LYRICS!! U crazy!!! Man u aint a hip hop fan thas fo real, i aint jokin!! U just wayne's BIG fun! Nigga PAC SONGS will be def be remembered for eva, show me a simple one Wayne's track that will leave its mark like thiS!!

get ya mind right shortie this rapper aint worth that much praise!!! Stop this ridiculous bullshit!

id buy paul wall b4 i buy lil wayne he aint gud and i really dont unda stand why he even rated a a decent rapper neva mind best alive

DAMN man you guys seriously dont know rap, Lil Wayne is no where near the greatest rapper alive... well accomplished? Take into consideration KRS-One, Hov, Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, Nas,... take those name into consideration PLEASE. These niggas are still makin albums they might not get much sales but they are hip-hop godfathers and like i said if you know real hip-hop you should know this. And to the person who said Tupac has hits but has worse lyrics than Wayne? Anyone who truly knows hip-hop knows that Tupac HAD the best lyrics ever and he IS the greatest rapper ever to this day, Wayne lyrically does not even come close, please fucking think b4 u post shit.

CC

Jay isn't original?

"Ya'll wanna know how I flow
Just seek and you find
I'm Like a brain in the voicebox
I speak my mind"

"The music business hate me cause the industry ain't make me
Hustlers and boosters embrace me and the music I be makin
I dumbed down for my audience to double my dollars
They criticized me for it yet they all yell "HOLLA!"
If skills sold, truth be told, I'd probably be
lyrically, Talib Kweli
Truthfully I wanna rhyme like Common Sense
But I did five mill' - I ain't been rhymin like Common since
When your cents got that much in common
And you been hustlin since, your inception
Fuck perception go with what makes sense
Since I know what I'm up against
We as rappers must decide what's most impor-tant
And I can't help the poor if I'm one of them
So I got rich and gave back, to me that's the win/win
So next time you see the homey and his rims spin
Just know my mind is workin just like them...
... the rims, that is"

"I'm from the place where the chruch is the flakiest
And niggas is praying to god so long that they Atheist
Where you can't put your vest away and say you'll wear it tomorrow
Cause the day after we'll be saying, damn I was just with him yesterday
I'm a block away from hell, not enough shots away from straight shells
An ounce away from a triple beam still using a hand-held weight scale
Your laughing, you know the place well
Where the Liqour Store's and the base well
And Government, fuck Government, niggas polotic themselves
Where we call the cops the A-Team
cause they hop out of vans and spray things
And life expectancy so low we making out wills at eight-teen
Where how you get rid of guys who step out of line, your rep solidifies
So tell me when I rap you think I give a fuck who criticize?
If the shit is lies, god strike me
And I got a question, are you forgiving guys who live just like me?
We'll never know
One day I pray to you and said if I ever blow, Let 'em know
Mistakes ain't exactly what takes place in the ghetto
Promise fulfilled, but still I feel my job ain't done
Cough up a lung, where I'm from, Marcy son, ain't nothing nice"

That is just a little... maybe I just don't get it, but I find those three lines to be original.

jay is spittin how good he think he is find me 1 jay track were he does not mention his "ability" or how rich he is. alot of rappers have metaphors n punch lines dats nuthin special. i hope jay has sum original lyrics cuz den he wouldnt b rapper at all but most of his trax r far from original. he raps 4 himself not 4 da people.

CC

Wayne constantly puts out bullshit especially recently

"Imagine" off the Drought 3, I think I would honestly rather listen to Fabo.

dats da dumbest thing i heard.

CC

Which part? It is all true to me...

I'm nuts, just call me squirrel"

"Money,money,money,money,money boost my morale
Play with my money,money,money,money,money O.K. Corral"

"Talk stupid at lunch then we havin' yo ribs"

The fuck??? Does anyone on here really think any of those lines are tight?
That is what the whole song sounds like.

And does any of it go together???

No b/c he doesn't even know what he is talking about

Hey Stupid ass dont pick out weak lines just to create beef.. wtf you talkin bout you gots to show respect.. man wayne got some hot shit and you no it boi you just some hatin ass fagot.. i agree he aint the best but i no he spit betta then your ass man.... so shut your ass up man tryin to start shit just because we know your fake now.

CC

1. Why are you calling me a stupid ass??

2. Of course Wayne has some shit that is tighter than my shit... I am not a rapper, everyone in the game is better than me, I just listen.

3. My original statement said Wayne constantly puts out B.S., especially lately. Then when someone said it was the stupidest shit he had ever heard, I came with some points for my argument... that is the point of a debate.

4. Fake...WTF??? I have never claimed to be anything so how am I a fake???

I can spit some other weak ass Wayne lines if you would like, b/c in my opinion 95% of the shit that comes out of his mouth is garbage.

All of Wayne's stuff sounds like those lines to me.

hey look why you bustin out numbers on me like bullet points man a'ight so if hes better then you like you clearly state dont fuckin bich about him suckin' and ok so also if latly it "B.s." weak shit then dont listen to it and all of it aint close to that man ok.. but my main shit you are stupid dont dis his shit when you weaker then him. show some respect and get off the bored dont post no more... just say that you didnt like it ok dont diss his shit.. and its wrong to characterize one person cause of a couple of lines and say its everything i bet you could go and find busta lines in almost any rapers shit... most importantly show some respect man. go put on some fuckin Fabio and suck a dick.

Plus if you look about most wayne is about the diction and the way its stated as well as the syntax of how the lines would be said.. the conatation can be tryin to be funny boi. Like im squirl im nuts what you said thats hilarious esspecially when in the conotation and diction he uses.

you fake cause you disrespect people who are better then you.

i hope you can understand my big words at the end

CC
Since when do you have to be able to rap to listn to rap... I guess that explains why everyone sucks b/c they all feel they have to donate something to the game just to listen to it. Yes, I said Wayne was better than ME... you think music critics rap???? they still critique music... I am sure you have said someone in the NBA,MLB,MLS,NFL, or some professional sports suck @ what they do... but I bet they are still better than you or any of us will ever be. If you get into something like this people are going to have opinions about your shit... My opinion on Wayne is that he isn't far from garbage.

Wayne: "I'm hot like light
I'm tuff like Ike
I don't fuck wit dog hoes
"Cause them hoes might bite"
The fuck is this... this is so elementary, and ppl hate on Flip 'cause they say he is too simple??/